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아버지의 유산 | The Life and Works of the Late Rev. Paul Ogunyale: Pioneering Herbal Medicine for Sickle Cell Patients and the “NICOSAN” Saga: Episode 21 (2023)

The More Sibyl Podcast Presents: 아버지의 유산 | The Life and Works of the Late Rev. Paul Ogunyale: Pioneering Herbal Medicine for Sickle Cell Patients and the “NICOSAN” Saga: Episode 21 (2023)

The name 'Ogunyale' will surely ring a bell for anyone in the herbal medicine field in Nigeria. This week, we have the privilege of welcoming Mr. Oluniyi (Niyi) Ogunyale to our show. He is the son of the late Reverend Paul Ogunniyi Ogunyale, a true legend in the herbal medicine field in Nigeria and the founder of Nicosan (now called Paumascel), a breakthrough drug for managing sickle cell disease. Niyi takes us on a captivating journey, sharing life experiences and insights from his childhood in Oyo town, Oyo state, Nigeria.

During our conversation, we delve into the origin and history of the groundbreaking herbal drug and how his father founded it, including measures to prevent possible consumer addiction due to its alcohol content. We also explore the implications of the legal battle between the Ogunyales and the Nigerian Institute for Pharmaceutical Research and Development (NIPRD) over 'Nicosan.' Niyi shares his heartfelt account of the sad and heartbreaking events surrounding the case, shedding light on crucial details, including his father not signing the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU).

Towards the end of the show, Niyi and I engage in a thought-provoking discussion about the implications of cultivating trust between the local community and industry, given the legal battles the family is going through. He also emphasizes the importance of ensuring the accessibility and affordability of his herbal medicines while maintaining their quality and effectiveness. Niyi envisions his brand and an extension of his father’s legacy, Paumatree, gaining global recognition in the next 5-10 years, with a strong emphasis on retaining affordability and accessibility.

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어린 시절의 추억| The One with Olabimpe - On Childhood Memories in Tenement Buildings: Episode 20 (2023)

The More Sibyl Podcast Presents: 어린 시절의 추억| The One with Olabimpe - On Childhood Memories in Tenement Buildings: Episode 20 (2023)

Welcome back to another thought-provoking episode of our podcast! This week, we're joined by the inspiring Olabimpe, sharing heartfelt experiences growing up in tenement buildings or "Face Me, I Slap You" houses. It's a part of my life I never thought I'd share publicly, but it's crucial to empower others through our story.

Tenement buildings are communal spaces where multiple families reside, sharing kitchens and bathrooms, often facing poor living conditions and overcrowding. We delve into the unique challenges and intricate relationships of this living arrangement. Our journey takes us into the shame, retraction, and challenges we faced living in such spaces and the lasting impact as adults. Olabimpe shares how it made her extra cautious and jumpy in unfamiliar places, while for me, it sparked an obsession with cleaning and maintaining a tidy space.

Growing up in these conditions was truly eye-opening. We discuss the reluctance to invite friends over due to stigmatization. Even though we had control over our words and appearance, living conditions left emotional impacts, almost akin to PTSD, according to Olabimpe. Our experiences offer profound insights into the impact of housing situations on a child's emotional and mental well-being. Despite the challenges, we found strength in tight-knit relationships and community support. We address stigmatization and explore ways to break stereotypes and embrace our true selves.

Our parents played central roles throughout our stories, providing crucial support during tough times. Honoring them is essential, as they created a safe and loving environment despite the circumstances.

Reflecting on our journeys, we're proud of how far we've come and all we have gained. This episode offers hope that time and the smallest changes made to one's environment can bring positive change, and we're living proof of this.